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Charlene - You are indeed fortunate. We have nothing to make sure that all
are treated fairly. We have no organization of any kind.
J. Steele
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I totally agree that a 2-year institution is a great place to work.  We do
not have tenure, but we have contracts.  We are given a contract when we
are given employment.  We are on probation for a year or so (depending on
how well we can teach) and then the contract is permanent.  Once we have a
regular contract we cannot be let go or fired unless there is a good
cause.
We also have a union which makes certain that we all get treated fairly
with our salaries and working conditions.  We do not need to negotiate our
own "deals."

Charlene

Charlene L. Newby
Lakeshore Technical College
Cleveland, WI 53015
Tel: 920.693.1622
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Via Mary Anne Rokitka...


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>Subject: Chronicle article: Not a Bad Gig [HAPP-L]
>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:33:58 -0500 (EST)
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>http://chronicle.com/jobs/2003/11/2003111001c.htm
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>               - The text of the article is below -
>_________________________________________________________________
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>_______________________________________________________________
>   Monday, November 10, 2003
>
>   Not a Bad Gig
>   By ROB JENKINS
>
>   Teaching at a two-year college actually has a lot of
>   advantages over teaching at a four-year institution -- and
>   certainly over being unemployed.
>
>   In my first column about teaching careers at community
>   colleges, I focused mostly on the bad news: heavy teaching
>   loads, little time for research, underprepared students, lower
>   salaries, lack of prestige. If my frankness made some think
>   twice about applying for openings at two-year colleges, well,
>   good. I've sat across the table from too many candidates who
>   had no idea what a community college was all about, and who
>   probably wouldn't have been there if they had.
>
>   But bad news, of course, is hardly the whole story. First and
>   foremost among the advantages is job security. I know you can
>   have job security at a four-year institution, too -- provided
>   you get tenure, which can be more or less difficult depending
>   on the institution. It's also true that not all two-year
>   colleges offer tenure, or, as some call it, a "continuing
>   contract."
>
>   But most community colleges do offer some version of tenure --
>   and it's often relatively easy to get. Unlike their
>   counterparts at four-year institutions, who may be required to
>   publish numerous articles and perhaps even a book to be
>   considered for tenure, community-college faculty members have
>   no such mandate. The truth is, at most two-year colleges, you
>   don't have to publish anything to get tenure.
>
>   You will probably be expected to participate in some sort of
>   professional development, but that could mean something as
>   simple as attending technology-training sessions on the campus
>   and going to the occasional academic conference. While those
>   are useful and worthwhile activities, they're clearly not as
>   demanding as writing a book.
>
>   More importantly, you will certainly have to show evidence of
>   good teaching and also, in most cases, of service to the
>   institution, because those are the primary activities of
>   community-college faculty members. But if you're able to do
>   that -- if you can document that you've consistently been a
>   good teacher, that you've served on committees and performed
>   other important functions for the college, and that you've
>   undergone at least some professional development -- you can
>   probably get tenure at most two-year colleges in three to five
>   years, seven at the outside.
>
>   Another potential advantage of the "teaching track" is that
>   you don't have to have a terminal degree. Read the ads for
>   faculty positions at community colleges, and you'll see that
>   nearly all list the same minimum requirements: master's degree
>   with 18 graduate semester hours in your particular field.
>
>   Don't assume that the term "minimum requirement" implies that
>   those with a master's degree don't stand a chance. Two-year
>   colleges actually hire lots of people with "just a master's"
>   -- two-thirds or more of the faculty at many two-year
>   institutions hold only a master's. True, some of those faculty
>   members are A.B.D., and many others have hours beyond the
>   master's. Quite a few go on to earn additional graduate hours
>   -- in many cases, at the college's expense -- and some even
>   complete their terminal degrees. But they were hired with
>   "just a master's."
>
>   Does that mean Ph.D.'s need not apply? Certainly not. In fact,
>   in recent years, the trend at community colleges has been to
>   hire more Ph.D.'s, partly because the market is glutted with
>   them and partly, perhaps, because word has gotten out that a
>   community college can be a pretty nice place to work. My
>   college, this past year, hired 16 new tenure-track faculty
>   members, six of whom hold terminal degrees. Ten years ago,
>   only two or three of the new hires would have had them.
>
>   That said, I don't believe that a terminal degree will
>   necessarily give you an advantage in applying or interviewing.
>   The faculty search committees I've served on -- at least a
>   dozen in the past decade -- were looking for the best teachers
>   we could find. Sometimes they were people with Ph.D.'s,
>   sometimes not. Our hiring committees tend to be "degree
>   blind," especially in the final stages of the search process.
>
>   Another advantage has to do with quality-of-life issues. In
>   addition to less stress, since faculty members probably won't
>   perish if they don't publish, community-college teaching
>   offers other lifestyle benefits, some quite tangible.
>
>   It's true that, on average, faculty salaries at two-year
>   colleges tend to be lower than those at four-year institutions
>   -- in some cases, much lower. On the other hand, two-year
>   colleges are often located in areas where the cost of living
>   is significantly lower than the national (or at least the
>   state) average. Many community-college professors are able to
>   live quite comfortably, despite the lower salaries.
>
>   In addition, most state systems offer excellent insurance
>   coverage, including health, dental, vision, and life, along
>   with a generous retirement plan. Many also allow faculty
>   members to take graduate courses within the state system at no
>   cost, and some even provide tuition benefits for their spouses
>   and children.
>
>   Prestige? That -- what there is of it -- is part of the
>   package, too. Over the years, I've known many colleagues who
>   were highly regarded in their local communities as experts. A
>   friend of mine, a history professor, published a popular
>   history of the area where he lives. A political-science
>   professor I know is frequently quoted in the local news media.
>   Others sponsor book clubs, give lectures to community art and
>   literary groups, or write columns for the newspaper.
>
>   Ultimately, though, the best thing about teaching at a
>   two-year school is just that: teaching. That's our primary
>   mission, and we know it. We embrace it. Our students know it,
>   too, and they expect us to be good at it.
>
>   By and large, we are very good at it -- especially given the
>   fact that so many of our students are less than ready for
>   college when they arrive. If there's anything more rewarding
>   in this profession than introducing a bright yet poorly
>   prepared (and perhaps unmotivated) student to the joy of
>   learning, perhaps for the first time, I haven't encountered
>   it. All teachers get to experience that occasionally.
>   Community-college teachers do it every day.
>
>   So, yes, my colleagues at four-year institutions are
>   publishing a lot more than I am. Some of them are even
>   becoming famous, or at least well known in their fields. Their
>   paychecks certainly have bigger numbers before the decimal
>   point.
>
>   But I seriously doubt that their careers -- or their lives,
>   for that matter -- are any more fulfilling than mine.
>
>
>
>
>
>   Rob Jenkins is an associate professor of English and chairman
>   of the humanities department at the Lawrenceville campus of
>   Georgia Perimeter College.
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>
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>
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>
>_________________________________________________________________
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