RE: [HAPS-L] credit for labs

["Ellen Arnestad" <magpie40@xxxxxxxxx>]

I guess I better not even say that we get 2 hours/1 hour lab (the extra hour for prep).  It seems all of our benefits here in Canada are better.
Ellen Arnestad

-----Original Message-----
From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Evans
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:11 AM
To: HAPS-L@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [HAPS-L] credit for labs

We get two credits for a three-hour lab but then we have a union...

> > > ebecker@xxxxxxxxx 1/31/2006 4:21 PM >>>
We got it at Elgin Community College the last round of negotiations!
Our primary argument was that labs are even more time intensive for
instructors than lecture - both in terms of prep and actual class time.
There are also the safety/supervision issues.   

It also didn't hurt that our dean is a former chemistry professor who
understood exactly what we meant and backed us up.  

Elizabeth Becker


-----Original Message-----
From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Johanna Kruckeberg
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:39 PM
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Subject: [HAPS-L] credit for labs

Hi, all--it's contract negotiation time of year here, and we are once again
trying to get 1 for 1 credit for lab instruction.  Can anyone give me any
encouraging examples to use as we negotiate?  Didn't someone request info on
this topic last year?  If there is a body of info compiled out there I sure
would appreciate receiving it.   Thanks for your help--Johanna

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