Re: [HAPS-L] Hip Bone?

["Charlene L. Hartlaub" <charlene.newby@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You really want me to shield my weapons?  or would you rather that I sheathe
my weapons?  ; -)  Lighten up.  You are both right.  Some nouns are used as
adjectives.  And some adjectives are used as nouns. (diabetic, chiropractic)
I just try to avoid that when possible with my students.  I try to make them
aware of language and listen to what they speak and write.  Too many errors
are made because of carelessness.  By the way, if hip bone is a compound
noun, don't you have to spell it hipbone as one word?  or as hip-bone with a
hyphen?

Charlene


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Jackson" <jackson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <HAPS-L@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [HAPS-L] Hip Bone?


Charlene,

I beg to disagree with your call on the grammar involved. Hip bone is
not "agrammatical" because "hip" is an adjective. (If you speak "jazz,"
you'll find that 'hip' is indeed an adjective, but that's another
discussion.)

Hip bone is a "compound" noun - like contact lens or gas grill or diesel
engine.  Plain and simple.

Grammar police, back off and shield your weapons.

Jon

Charlene L. Hartlaub wrote:
> I agree.  When there are common "lay" terms for an item, I make it clear
as
> to which terms I will or will not accept.  Besides, "hip bone" is
incorrect
> grammar.  "Hip" is a noun, not an adjective.  I suppose you could say,
> "Hippal bone" or "Hippic bone" - now that sounds amusing.
>
> Charlene
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ted Namm" <Theodore_Namm@xxxxxxx>
> To: <HAPS-L@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [HAPS-L] Hip Bone?
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Regarding the "vernacular" terms, it is my feeling that we are teaching
> anatomy.  All of us emphasize learning anatomical terms such as
> "superior" and "inferior", instead of up and down.  So, it makes sense
> that we should be just as fussy for the body parts.
>
> I marked a student wrong when she put "ass" instead of gluteal region.
> I also have not allowed "shoulder blade", "collarbone", "kneecap", etc.
> I do not allow the use of the term "stomach" if the reference is to the
> abdominopelvic cavity, and have taken off full credit for "incubator
> foramen" when I asked pelvic inlet.
>
> Ted Namm
> UMass Lowell
>
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