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RE: [HAPS-L] Cabbage and lactation
Good point, Mike! Also, other poultices that may change
texture/composition with liquid would not be ideal (an engorged breast
is likely to leak breast milk) and mud packs would create an unclean
environment for eventual feeding. Plus, a cabbage leaf is easier to
insert under clothing and go (and not cause residual "mess") than other
remedies...
Valerie Dean O'Loughlin, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Anatomy and Cell Biology
Director of Undergraduate Human Anatomy
Medical Sciences
Jordan Hall 010A
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405
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From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Atkinson
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:38 PM
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Subject: RE: [HAPS-L] Cabbage and lactation
My wife nursed six and we never used a cabbage leaf poultice. But the
strength and texture of cabbage leaf would last much longer than the
thinner
lettuce leaf.
Michael J. Atkinson, Ed.D.
Professor of Biology
Dean, School of Arts & Sciences
Oakland City University
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Oakland City, IN 47660
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Of David Evans
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:31 AM
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Subject: RE: [HAPS-L] Cabbage and lactation
Valerie: you haven't looked simply enough:
>>Lettuce leaves have the same shape, are softer, can be found more
commonly in more places, and stink much less!
>>One can use certain warm mud packs to achieve a similar effect of
reducing swelling. Fuller's earth, I believe it was called, was an old
treatment, well known in former times, easy to find, and worked well
too.
>>There is almost a vast wonderland of useful home poultice treatments
as well.
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Behalf Of O'Loughlin, Valerie D
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:12 AM
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Subject: RE: [HAPS-L] Cabbage and lactation
Cabbage leaves help with reducing the engorgement that sometimes is
associated with breastfeeding (vs. actual milk ejection, per se).
In terms of why cabbage leaves - there may be compounds in the leaves,
but let's look at the obvious - if you examine the shape of the cabbage
leaf, it is, ahem, more "form fitting" to the breast than a flat ice
pack. :) (sometimes the simplest answer is the best...)
Valerie
Valerie Dean O'Loughlin, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Anatomy and Cell Biology
Director of Undergraduate Human Anatomy
Medical Sciences
Jordan Hall 010A
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405
(812) 855-7723 (voice)
(812)-855-4436 (fax)
vdean@xxxxxxxxxxx
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From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of David Evans
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:56 AM
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Subject: RE: [HAPS-L] Cabbage and lactation
It seems unlikely (and only that) for a water-soluble substance to move
through the epidermis. OTOH: if there really is anything to this story,
the substance could be fat-soluble. However, I have another answer.
An explanation may be that someone noticed that cabbage-EATING (not
rubbing!) women have lower breast cancer rates due to estrogen blocking.
Somehow the two ideas of mammary secretions and mammary cancers got
bungled up in folks' minds. Some of the breast cancers manifest in
unexpected breast secretions so that odd mental association may have
been strengthened.
>From the Alma Mater, here is a report on the estrogen-blocking effects
of something in cabbages:
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20010303/food.asp
Anticancer chemicals have been found before in members of the genus
Brassica before: sulforaphane and indole-3 but these are more highly
concentrated in broccoli sprouts and certain other relatives of mustard
greens than in cabbage. Therefore, eat your greens and stop whining!
To those for whom I have not proven a complete cure for insomnia: there
are more living old wives than living old Ob-Gyn's!
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Behalf Of Rawding, Robert S
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:12 PM
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Subject: RE: [HAPS-L] Cabbage and lactation
Steve,
That would be a good trick with the cabbage, though, since the mammary
glands are inside the breasts - not the breasts themselves, e.g. a
duckbill platypus has mammary glands but no breasts. But we DO know
what you meant, Steve!!!! So too, the milk letdown reflex stops when
the stretch on the nipple stops - I belive. The cabbage or any other
object would be irrelevant.
Bob
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From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Kish
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:28 PM
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Subject: [HAPS-L] Cabbage and lactation
Here's an interesting one,
We were discussing oxytocin in class today, and I was talking
about how this hormone stimulates the ejection of milk from the mammary
glands. One of my students asked why some women put cabbage on their
mammary glands to stop the leaking of breast milk. Several other
students said that their mother's did the same thing. I have never
heard of this. Does anyone out there have any information on this?
Steve
Steven Kish
Assistant Professor
Zane State College
1555 Newark Road
Zanesville, OH 43701
740.588.1239
1.800.686.8324, ext. 1239
skish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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