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RE: [HAPS-L] Never assume...



HAPSters,
 
Why not just use the body in the anatomical position, and state that everything forward of a coronal (frontal) plane is anterior?
 
I always make them smile with that plane when I then subdivide the body into into "frontal" and "backal".   
 
(I'm not throwing Fido into the mix, because s/he is a quadrupedal non-human).
 
There has to be a reference point for any anatomical term; otherwise each makes no sense.
 
Bob
 
 
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From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Roberta Meehan
Sent: Sat 9/8/07 4:18 PM
To: HAPS-L@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [HAPS-L] Never assume...

I am not totally convinced there is an answer to:  "Define the term anterior."  We have a number of terms in biology that can only be defined by their function or their negation or their characteristics or some such other non-definition.  Anterior seems to be one of those words.
 
My personal opinion is that words such as anterior should be tested for in ways other than by asking for a definition.  I would test for an understanding of anterior with a question asking for location, synonym, characteristic, relationship to, or other similar identifying features.  Just my not so humble opinion.
 
Roberta M Meehan
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Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [HAPS-L] Never assume...

I would not accept the definition.  If I had asked, "Give me another name for anterior." then ventral would be okay - and not really because they are not the same thing.  But I would accept that.  If I said, "Define anterior." then I would expect a definition, not a synonym.  Of course I have gone over all definitions with students during the preceeding classes so they know exactly for what type of answer I am looking.  Otherwise, it is a guessing game.
 
When I ask for a definition, I also expect a complete sentence so that I know what they are talking about.  It should start, "Anterior is ....." or "Anterior means ......" or whatever is suitable.  I do not accept just a phrase or word because it does not tell me if the person knows or not.  It is guessing on both of our parts.  They hate it at first, but after a couple of months they appreciate what I am trying to accomplish - understanding what they mean.  Of course, that means I have to teach them that a lot of words strung together is not necessarily a sentence.
 
Charlene
 
 
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: [HAPS-L] Never assume...

Ken et al.

 

How about this answer to “Define the term anterior.”

“Anterior is the same as ventral.  Anterior is opposite of posterior, which is the same a dorsal.” 

 

I have a hard time with this because what they say is actually true, albeit odd.  I am still confused as to whether or not they answered the questions. Yes anterior is the same as ventral and that would be a great answer if I could assume that they actually know the definition of ventral.

 

I continue to laugh…

 

Jason LaPres

Associate Professor of Biology

Human Anatomy and Physiology

North Harris College

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