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RE: [HAPS-L] another shot fired in the evolution wars



Any social movement that must succumb to such stealth and sneaky tactics must know it is a false ideology.  I live in Wichita and must contend with this nonsense on an almost weekly basis.  Thanks for your post, Ken.

 

Paul

 


From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Saladin
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [HAPS-L] another shot fired in the evolution wars

 

Is anyone but evolutionary biologists still paying any attention to this? I really want to know how much interest you all have in this or any other PR item.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/16692012.htm



I am. I received word of this through a Georgia network of creationism-watchers. Kansas has been quite a see-saw, and I wouldn't be very surprised to see another shift at the next election. You'd think they'd get tired of this silliness. I believe the intelligent design movement has peaked and may be moribund.

I've had quite an interesting encounter with them recently. I don't want to name any names, but a year ago I was invited to speak on evolution and creationism to the annual conference of the Texas Community College Teachers' Association. One of the members was sufficiently impressed with my talk to invite me back to give the 2007 Distinguished Lecture at his college -- an interdepartmental event, more or less their convocation I guess, for a projected audience of 400 or so. He wanted me to speak on a variation of the same topic. I had planned on about 45-50 minutes, divided between the scientific, legal, and theological failings of creationism and intelligent design "theory." The talk was to have been the last week of March 2007. Then about four weeks ago, it came to light that a fellow of the Discovery Institute had been invited as an afterthought, I was now to cut my talk in half, and it was to be a debate between the two of us. This is exactly what the Discovery Institute explicitly says in its infamous Wedge Document that it wants -- to draw evolutionary scientists into public debates, because it stimulates larger audiences, it helps them get their message out more broadly, and it legitimizes their cause when they can put on their resumes that they've been invited participants at distinguished events at secular colleges. It makes any participating scientist a tool of the DI agenda. I said that I would not debate or share the agenda with a DI fellow, so now I am no longer on the agenda (and apparently, he still is). I'll have to find something else to do with my spring break.

Ken