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RE: [HAPS-L] Mutations



Ken-

Is it surprising to you that measurable reality is different from “what conventional wisdom says”?  I think the popular notion is firmly entrenched (thanks to all those 50’s and 60’s atomic horror sci fi movies?) that mutation = BAD, not just mutation = change.  There are fewer examples in the popular culture of a “mutant” being a force for good than an incarnation of evil.  Who even cares about mutation if it’s silent?

 

I agree with the notion that the vast majority of mutations are probably silent, but without a change in morphology or function it is quite difficult to get people who don’t REALLY believe in the cellular basis of life (let alone how DNA influences proteins that alter cell function) to accept that any “change” at all has occurred.  I think that’s why I teach about mutations causing changes that can be acted on by selection forces.  It’s a much more attention-getting entrance into the subject.

Margaret W.

 


From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Saladin
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Subject: RE: [HAPS-L] Mutations

 

We only see noncoding DNA in living organisms, so that skews our view of how many "harmless" mutations occur.  We never get to see the mutations that result in a failure to produce an observable offspring.
 
--Bill
William Caldecutt, Ph.D.
Polk Community College



That still doesn't answer my point.

My point is that if 98% of the DNA is noncoding, and IF (an arguable point) mutations are random with respect to whether they occur in coding or noncoding regions of the DNA molecule, and IF (also an arguable point) mutations in noncoding DNA do not harm organismal function, then most mutations can be expected to be harmless. The fact that lethal mutations are not represented among the living observable population is quite irrelevant to that prediction.

That second "if" may be the most salient, since damage to noncoding DNA perhaps can affect spacing or other nontranscriptional functions that might affect organismal function. But even if the frequency of harmless mutations is offset by that, it still seems plausible that mutations may be harmless much more often than the conventional wisdom says -- indeed perhaps in a substantial majority of cases. Even if some mutations of noncoding DNA did affect spacing or other structural functions, it would take an awful lot of mutations of that sort to offset that 98% figure.

Ken