[HAPS-L] retention rates

["MALACHOWSKY,KEN" <Ken.Malachowsky@xxxxxxxx>]

Bob, 
   Again, just curious....how do you define retention? 


Thanks,

Ken M

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108 - 120 in the fall, 88 - 98 spring for last 3 years. No preq., can be 
in developmental math, reading, and/or writing.  Meeting is tomorrow, 
but suspect administration wants only C's or better at the end of the 
course.  I haven't calculated anything since I'm still typing with one 
hand.  The last time we had this discussion, about 5 years ago, 
retention for A & P I was about 50%, including withdrawals.  I collected 
data and took the issue to academic council, asking for stratification 
(completion of reading).  Nothing was accomplished.  My boss suggested 
that I change the textbook.  We had done that within the last year, so I 
asked him what criteria he wanted me to use.  He didn't have an answer 
so I didn't take it to all my colleagues at the satellite campuses.  It 
is difficult to get everybody to agree and I wasn't going to revisit the 
issue without administrative guidelines!

mlp

MALACHOWSKY,KEN wrote:
> Just curious.  How many students do you usually have in these courses?
What
> prereqs if any, did they have?  By retention, do you mean how many make
earn
> a C or better from day one?  This data would include all D and Fs as well
as
> withdrawn students?  I ask this since I teach at a 2 year school and my
> numbers are more in the 60-70 percentile when one counts in withdrawn
> students into the data.
>  
>  
> Thanks for your answers,
>  
> Ken M
>  
> Florence-Darlington Technical College
>
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> From: HAPS-L-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Bob Tallitsch
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> Data from my institution (4-year liberal arts institution) may be aberrant
> from community college data.
>
> Human Anatomy: 98% retention rate (over 30 years)
> Neuroanatomy: 99% retention rate (over 30 years)
> Histology: 100% retention rate (over 30 years)
> Kinesiology: 99% retention rate (over 30 years)
>
> If you need any clarification on these data let me know Mary Lou.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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> 		        i have a meeting Wed. morning about improving
> retention rates. please send me your data, especially community colleges.
> sorry for brevity and punctuation - carpal tunnel surgery
> 		        
> 		        thank you,
> 		        mary lou percy
>
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