A photographer takes some pictures of buildings
in NYC and publishes them in his book. Does he need permission from the owners
of the buildings in order to publish the images? Has anyone
on this list serve ever asked permission from Carolina or Nasco in order to produce
digitized images from their slides (realizing the images can end up in a lab
manual or a PPT presentation)? Do we need permission to take pics of organs?
The company went through the “work” to produce a “clean”
looking organ; just as they went through the work to make a histological
specimen. These copyright issues and safety issues both can seem to go a
bit extreme.
Just wondering,
Ken M
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David
This should be OK, but in all cases, you should obtain permission. My
publishers rep very specifically told me to do this. My lectures
including the figures from my animal physiology text are available on WebCT,
but only to the students registered in my class. The rep said the
publisher had no problem with this fair use since the site was secure.
What a student does after that is still a question in my mind, but
it is the student’s problem if they were to decide to violate copyright
with the downloaded (low res) artwork.
I know a number of people who have purchased prepared histological or
organismal slides from the typical suppliers, Carolina, Nasco, etc. and search for
the best example to photograph. These digitized images were then incorporated
into lab handouts or Powerpoint presentations. I thought this was common
practice, but from this interesting thread, it seems that the owner of the
slides needs to give permission before this can legally be done. I
think I need to spread the word to my colleagues, and remind them, as I do for
my plagiarizing students, of the first few seconds of any video or DVD, that
says something like ‘copyright infringement is punishable by up to 10
years in prison and $100,000 fine.” or something to that effect.
On 4/18/07 9:35 AM, "David Evans" <devans@xxxxxxx> wrote:
What if a professor were to put the lab
manual on a password-protected site and write it in Blackboard or whatever.
Wouldn’t Internet-available illustrations then be accessible with fewer
copyright restrictions?
I don’t do this but it seems to me that at one time I was told that.
Anyone know?
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Ken,
Have you come across any cases in which you became
aware that publishing images of models that your school owned was a copyright
issue? There are many images of lab models on the internet and I
don’t see a difference of publishing an image vs posting an image other
than a charge is associated with the purchase of a lab manual. Copyright
usually is aimed at preventing any type of reproduction without permission of
author or publishing company.
Any feedback would be useful,
Ken M
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Hello!
I am considering designing a custom lab book to be printed by our copy services
at the college for a two semester a and p course. Are there others that have
done this that may have some advice? I was wondering about what people had done
about images, I was considering taking photos of the models as one option.
I did a custom manual for many years before I started writing commercial
textbooks. I had it printed and wire-spiral bound by a private printing company
in my region -- although it was a labor-intensive hassle for me and I would do
things differently (through one of the national custom-publishing companies) if
I had it to do over again. I think you'd have copyright problems with
publishing images of the lab models. The only images I ever used in my manual
were my own hand-drawn ones. I'm thinking of making digital photos of the
anatomical models with my own labeling just to put in a looseleaf binder in the
lab, or to make as a PowerPoint accessible to students, for them to consult
when in the lab. I think that would come in as fair use, whereas mass printing
of such images probably would not.
Another question I had was whether there were individuals
who were willing to share what muscles and bones features they require students
to learn or a good reference for this information. The A and P
instructors here at the college have some varied opinions on what should be
required and I was interested in some outside advice.
I took a survey on HAPS-L last October on what muscles people cover. I will
send you the statistical summary of the results offlist. Someone else took a
survey on arteries and veins shortly afterward, but I don't think any results
have been reported as yet.
Ken Saladin