RE: [HAPS-L] sort of changing the topic--was Custom lab book???

David,

The sources are the issue. If the textual material was written by you and not plagiarized, then you own the copyright and may do whatever you like with it. If the images are yours too, or you’ve obtained the specific written permission from their owner(s), then that is okay as well. “Internet-available” is a stumbling block here. If the images appear on a web site and are made available as (1) public domain (2) free if properly cited or (3) some similar ‘gratis’ language, then, yes, that is permissible. A good rule to follow is “get permission.” Someone out there is the originator of the images – unless it is the midi-chlorians!!! That person must agree to let you use them. As I explain to my students EVERY SEMESTER, just because it is on the web, does not mean that it is free for the taking. But you should also consult someone at your home institution about all of it. Granted, educators have much leeway for fair use, not fair abuse.

This truly sounds like a ripe topic for a HAPS Workshop!!!!!

Bob

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What if a professor were to put the lab manual on a password-protected site and write it in Blackboard or whatever. Wouldn’t Internet-available illustrations then be accessible with fewer copyright restrictions?

I don’t do this but it seems to me that at one time I was told that. Anyone know?

Subject: [HAPS-L] Custom lab book???

Ken,

Have you come across any cases in which you became aware that publishing images of models that your school owned was a copyright issue? There are many images of lab models on the internet and I don’t see a difference of publishing an image vs posting an image other than a charge is associated with the purchase of a lab manual. Copyright usually is aimed at preventing any type of reproduction without permission of author or publishing company.

Any feedback would be useful,

Ken M

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Hello!
I am considering designing a custom lab book to be printed by our copy services at the college for a two semester a and p course. Are there others that have done this that may have some advice? I was wondering about what people had done about images, I was considering taking photos of the models as one option.

I did a custom manual for many years before I started writing commercial textbooks. I had it printed and wire-spiral bound by a private printing company in my region -- although it was a labor-intensive hassle for me and I would do things differently (through one of the national custom-publishing companies) if I had it to do over again. I think you'd have copyright problems with publishing images of the lab models. The only images I ever used in my manual were my own hand-drawn ones. I'm thinking of making digital photos of the anatomical models with my own labeling just to put in a looseleaf binder in the lab, or to make as a PowerPoint accessible to students, for them to consult when in the lab. I think that would come in as fair use, whereas mass printing of such images probably would not.

Another question I had was whether there were individuals who were willing to share what muscles and bones features they require students to learn or a good reference for this information. The A and P instructors here at the college have some varied opinions on what should be required and I was interested in some outside advice.

I took a survey on HAPS-L last October on what muscles people cover. I will send you the statistical summary of the results offlist. Someone else took a survey on arteries and veins shortly afterward, but I don't think any results have been reported as yet.

Ken Saladin